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Speedy renaming and speedy merging
Categories may be listed here if they fall under the criteria specified at Wikipedia:Category renaming and repeated below. Deletion and de-listing may occur after 48 hours if there are no objections. They must be tagged with {{subst:cfr-speedy|new name}} so that users of the categories are aware of the proposal. This delay is to allow for objections over correct spelling, etc. to be made and to ensure that items are not listed here that do not meet the criteria.
Categories that qualify for speedy deletion (per Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion, e.g. "patent nonsense", "recreation", empty categories (that have been empty for four days) can be tagged with the regular speedy tags, such as {{db|reason}}, and no delay is required for these.
Contested requests can be removed from this list after 48 hours. If the nominator wants to continue the process they need to submit the request as a regular CfD using the instructions above.
Speedy criteria
Criteria for speedy renaming or speedy merging are strictly limited to:
- Typographical errors (such as, Brdiges → Bridges).
- Note that differences between British and American spelling (for example, Harbours → Harbors) are not considered errors, but if both exist as otherwise-identical category names, they should be merged.
- Capitalization fixes (such as, Characters In harry Potter → Characters in Harry Potter)
- Conversions from singular to plural, or back (such as, Steamship → Steamships)
- Non-conformance with "x by y", "x of y", or "x in y" categorization conventions specified at Wikipedia:Naming conventions (categories).
- This should only be used where there is no room for any doubt whatsoever that the category in question is being used for the standard purpose instead of being a potential subcategory. It should not be assumed that an incorrectly formatted "radio stations" category was intended to be a "radio" category, or that an incorrectly formatted "archaeological sites" category was intended to be an "archaeology" category.
- Expanding abbreviations for country names: The name of the country should appear as it does in the name of the article about that country (for example, US or U.S. in reference to the United States should be renamed to United States, but this criterion specifically does not apply to renames between the terms "American" and "United States").
- Renames to match a disambiguated parent category such as Category:Georgia (country) or Category:Georgia (U.S. state) from an unqualified name are eligible for speedy renames.
When the speedy rename procedure should not be used:
- When proposing that the category name should be reformatted in addition to one of the speedy criteria
- When proposing that two or more changes should be made, each of which qualifies under the speedy criteria
- When proposing to change a country name to an adjective, or vice versa, as in United Kingdom to British, American to United States, Germany to German, Argentine to Argentina, etc.
- When proposing a change that is based on a naming convention adopted by a specific WikiProject but does not otherwise meet any of the six speedy criteria listed above
- When proposing a change that does not qualify under any of the six criteria above, regardless of whether or not the proposed change will bring the category into conformity with existing categories
Note: If the nominator decides to change a nomination based on comments, simply delete the old nomination and create a new one as long as it still meets the speedy criteria.
Add requests for speedy renaming here
If the category does not match one of the six criteria listed above PRECISELY, do not list it here, but list it in the main section instead. If you are in any doubt as to whether it qualifies, do not list it here. Use the following format:
- * [[:Category:OLD Name]] to [[:Category:NEW Name]] ~~~~
Don't forget to tag the category with {{subst:cfr-speedy|new name}}
Please add new entries at the TOP of the list and sign and date stamp your entries with — ~~~~.
A request may be completed if it is more than 48 hours old; that is, the time stamp shown is 18:10, 20 November 2008 (UTC) or earlier.
Ready for deletion
Once the renaming has been completed, copy and paste the listing to the Ready for deletion section of Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Working/Manual.
Current discussions
November 22
NEW NOMINATIONS
Category:Bronze Soldier
- Category:Bronze Soldier - (|talk|history|links|watch|logs)
- Nominator's rationale: Delete The articles listed in this category are not of loosely connected similar topics; rather, they're vastly different yet tightly related articles that are best served by a coherent narrative. The narrative is already there, provided by the main articles. Thus, the category serves no useful purpose, and should be deleted. ΔιγουρενΕμπρος! 16:35, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
5th millennium
- Category:5th millennium - (|talk|history|links|watch|logs)
- Category:41st century - (|talk|history|links|watch|logs)
- Category:Films set in the 41st century - (|talk|history|links|watch|logs)
- Nominator's rationale: Delete Newly created small categories with few pages. EVER (well, at least for another few millennia.) — Arthur Rubin (talk) 14:55, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
Category:K-Horror
- Propose renaming Category:K-Horror to Category:South Korean horror films
- Nominator's rationale: Every article in this category is a horror film produced in South Korea. Renaming it "South Korean horror films" would make it fit in better with its fellow sub-categories at Category:Horror films by country. Nohansen (talk) 02:48, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
- Keep, as this does actually seem to be be the widely used name for the genre (see the article: K-horror). Moreover, we have Category:J-Horror (not to mention Category:J-pop and who knows what else), and unless that's also going to be nominated, this one should be kept for consistency reasons. Terraxos (talk) 03:55, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
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November 21
NEW NOMINATIONS
Category:Dinosaur Jr albums
- Propose renaming Category:Dinosaur Jr albums to Category:Dinosaur Jr. albums
- Nominator's rationale: Category should be renamed for consistency with Dinosaur Jr., which was moved from Dinosaur Jr following discussion on article's talk page —Snigbrook 23:36, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
- Rename but keep the original as a soft redirect. Lugnuts (talk) 09:50, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
Category:My Life as a Teenage Robot
- Category:My Life as a Teenage Robot - (|talk|history|links|watch|logs)
- Nominator's rationale: Delete Overly narrow, no chance of expansion beyond main page, episode/characters list and creator. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 18:12, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
Category:Albums produced by Richard Bennett
- Category:Albums produced by Richard Bennett - (|talk|history|links|watch|logs)
- Nominator's rationale: Delete Only two of these albums were produced solely by Richard Bennett. Bennett hardly ever produces albums, and when he does it's almost always a co-production job. This is very similar to this CfD which resulted in a delete. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 17:59, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
- Delete, per rationale used in above-referenced CfD. If co-producer does not equal producer, this one fails. -RoBoTamice 18:09, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
Category:Self-identified drug addicts
- Category:Self-identified drug addicts - (|talk|history|links|watch|logs)
- Nominator's rationale: Delete Category name and concept (a list of "drug addicts") is inflammatory, and a likely violation of WP:BIO by labeling persons "Self-identified drug addicts." The list is currently populated with names (articles) of individuals that have at one or more times dealt with alcohol/drug issues, yet the title clearly gives the impression that each addition to the category is currently a "drug addict." Additionally, upon inspection of the articles added to the category, few, if any, show referenced proof of their subjects "self-identifying" as an "addict." This category unnecessarily exposes Wikipedia to charges of defamation and false light, charges not likely to be resolved by a simple name change. RoBoTamice 17:58, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
- Delete BLP nightmare waiting to happen. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 18:12, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
- Comment - I don't much care one way or the other whether this stays or goes, but as far as the nom is concerned, my understanding is that current medical and sociological thinking is "once an addict, always an addict" so I don't think that's an issue. Regarding BLP, if there is a reliable source in which the person does indeed identify as a drug addict, BLP is satisfied. I would suggest for consistency's sake adding Category:People self-identifying as alcoholics and Category:People with alcoholism to this nomination. Otto4711 (talk) 20:49, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
- Delete, speedily if possible. Even if some or all of the people categorised here have identified themselves as drug addicts, I don't think this is remotely acceptable as a category - 'people by addiction' just generally seems like a terrible idea for BLP reasons. Terraxos (talk) 03:47, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
Category:Local school boards
- Category:Local school boards - (|talk|history|links|watch|logs)
- Nominator's rationale: Delete generic category. Most of its current entries are found in the more specific Category:School districts in Ontario. There's no need for a category with such broad coverage. Mindmatrix 14:42, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
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- If you take the time to look, you will see that the articles are already in those other categories. That fact in no way negates the usefullness of this category. Apples and oranges. Cgingold (talk) 15:09, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
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- Hmm, I'm sorry. This appeared obvious to me that the articles belonged in only one "school districts" category and went and removed Category:Local school boards from all the Ontario and Quebec school boards as they were all already in the more precise subcat of school districts in Canada. If I'd seen your comment first, I would have certainly waited. DOUBLEBLUE (talk) 15:25, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
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- Good grief in the extreme. Doesn't anybody read what it says right there on the CFD notice: "Please do not empty the category or remove this notice while the discussion is in progress." Please be kind enough to repopulate the category -- thanks. Cgingold (talk) 15:32, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
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- As I said, I'm sorry. It appeared blindingly obvious to me that it was a mistake to have this category on these articles. I have already reverted myself on all the cat removals. DOUBLEBLUE (talk) 15:38, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
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- Thank you. If I seem a bit irked it's mostly because this happens more often than it should. Plus, as I said, I had just finished adding them minutes before you removed them. All is forgiven! Cgingold (talk) 15:53, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
Keep [see below] as parent cat for School boards by country. Good grief -- what amazingly strange timing, Mindmatrix! As you can see from the edit history, just 20 minutes before you posted your CFD notice I added another parent cat for this category -- and I then spent 10 minutes finding and adding more articles, as well as the Quebec sub-cat. It then dawned on me that it would make sense to set up sub-cats for Ontario and Canada, which seem to have the lion's share of articles at the moment, as well as sub-cats for the other countries, including the United States. The mere fact that this category encompasses school boards in multiple countries is hardly a reason for deletion. I think our time (yours and mine) would be better spent setting up those sub-cats than arguing about it here at CFD. So if you agree, please consider withdrawing this nomination so we can close it out and get back to work. :) Cgingold (talk) 15:05, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
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- Comment - it's not "amazingly strange timing". You edited an article on my watchlist, I inspected the change and followed it to the category, inspected that and decided it was essentially the same as Category:School districts. Mindmatrix 16:32, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
- Further comment: The new parent cat that I just added was Category:Local government -- a category of similar breadth that encompasses Local governments in multiple countries. By the half-baked logic (sorry, no offense intended) of this CFD nomination, one could argue that Category:Local government should be deleted, too. Somehow, I doubt anybody would actually suggest doing that.
Notified creator with {{subst:cfd-notify}} Cgingold (talk) 15:19, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
- Question: Could you please better explain how this category is different from Category:School districts? Thanks, DOUBLEBLUE (talk) 15:28, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
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- Surely you must realize that a school district includes all sorts of things: schools and other facilities, a superintendent and other administrators, plus teachers and other personnel -- as well as the school board, whose function is to set policy for the school district. In short, they are by no means equivalent terms. Cgingold (talk) 15:37, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
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- For starters, I can't imagine having that category. Perhaps you meant to word it a little differently? But more importantly, regardless of any quibbles we may (or may not) have over how we define what constitutes a "school district", it is nonetheless distinct from a "school board". To reiterate, the school board is the body that sets policy for the school district (as well as hiring the superintendent). So unless the terms are used radically differently in Canada than they are in the US, they refer to two very distinct -- though closely related -- things. Hope that helps! (If not, I'm afraid I'll have to continue this conversation later. Gotta run!) Cgingold (talk) 15:53, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
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- The term is ambiguous, at least in south-central Ontario. School district and school board are used interchangeably, and school district may also refer to an individual school district (ie - the area from which a school draws its student body, probably better referred to as the school's district, though this point is moot since that info would surely be part of a school's article). However, you'll note that some are named as school boards for a district, such as York Region District School Board. Ontario's Education Act with respect to school board defines the terms and principles for the province. The Act uses the term district school board exclusively. I believe this is a shift from using the term school board in the past. Mindmatrix 16:32, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
- Irrespective of that, all the information you list is currently contained in the respective articles of each school district (ahem, school board), if at all, obviating the need for such a category. I can't imagine that individual teachers, administrators, trustees or superintendents would warrant their own article, at least not in sufficient numbers to necessitate this category hierarchy. I would much prefer creating a category such as Category:York Region District School Board, which would contain articles about everything related to the board. Mindmatrix 16:32, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
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- Indeed. In Ontario, school boards = school districts and are determined and regulated by the province. I can see that other jurisdictions could have multiple school boards within school districts but would not those local board categories go within that school district cat? DOUBLEBLUE (talk) 16:50, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
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- Reading briefly more about this, it appears that in the US, school boards are school trustees, who in Ontario are more or less a board of directors for the school board. I would still say that the board cat, if one needs to exist, would belong under the district cat. DOUBLEBLUE (talk) 17:11, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
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- Yikes. No wonder we were so horrified by one another's egregious misuse of the term! It appears that what we have here is a rather jaw-dropping illustration of that famous aphorism attributed to Churchill, about "two peoples separated by a common language". Given what are, indeed, distinctly different uses of the term "school board", it clearly isn't suited for generic use in a category name. That in itself is enough for me to withdraw my support for keeping this category. Cgingold (talk) 21:46, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
Category:United States education by state
Category:United States education by state (|talk|history|links|watch|logs)
- Rename per nom, as the ungrammatical creator thereof. Postdlf (talk) 15:28, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
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- Excuse me, but isn't the phrase "ungrammatical creator" kind of, um, ungrammatical?? Oh, of course -- I get it! Cgingold (talk) 15:43, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
Category:60 Minutes correspondents
- Category:60 Minutes correspondents - (|talk|history|links|watch|logs)
- Nominator's rationale: Delete - per WP:OCAT, no different from other cast member categories that are uniformly deleted. Already listed at 60 Minutes. Otto4711 (talk) 11:32, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
- Delete Overcategorization. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 18:13, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
- Question. I support this deletion suggestion but I wonder what is different about this kind of overcategorisation and categories by members of a band which are often 5 persons or less? DOUBLEBLUE (talk) 01:43, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
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- As a general rule, band members don't move from band to band to band in the course of their musical career (there are those who do but they are the exception). Journalists can and frequently do move from one network to another or from one show to another within the network. Categorizing on that basis would lead to category clutter. Otto4711 (talk) 06:38, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
- Keep a defining period in a journalist's career. 76.66.195.63 (talk) 04:16, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
Category:Television anchors who ran for election
- Category:Television anchors who ran for election - (|talk|history|links|watch|logs)
- Nominator's rationale: Delete. WP:OCAT by intersection of unrelated occupations. Bearcat (talk) 01:43, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
Category:Lists of cities in Italy
Category:Bosnian and Herzegovinian emigrants
- Propose renaming
- Nominator's rationale: Rename. Emigrants are categorized by nationality, not ethnicity. "Bosnian" and "Herzegovinian" are (separate) ethnicities, but for the nationality of people from Bosnia and Herzegovina, WP uses "Bosnia and Herzegovina" to (muffled laughter) avoid confusion with the ethnicity. All other nationality categories in Category:Bosnia and Herzegovina people use this form. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:04, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
- This is one of several reasons "Immigrants from [Foo] to [Bar]" would work better across the board. — CharlotteWebb 05:12, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
- I think we need "Emigrants from [Foo] to [Bar]", "Immigrants to [Bar] from [Foo]", "Fooian expatriates in Bar", "People of dual Fooian-Barian citizenship", "Fooians in Bar whose status cannot be established by wikipedians other than by mere guesswork" (the last being quite the largest of these). Occuli (talk) 10:07, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
- all true, but Rename per nom anyway. Johnbod (talk) 01:28, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
- Rename per nom. I think eventually the em/immigrants cat pages should go - it s enough to categorise as an expat or a naturalised citizen without keeping subset (of the former type but not the later) Mayumashu (talk) 03:11, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
November 20
Category:Sennin-G
Category:Sennin-G (|talk|history|links|watch|logs)
- Nominator's rationale: Delete. - Looks to be an individual user's category for their images. Vast precedent to delete such categories, see here. VegaDark (talk) 22:27, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
- Delete Misuse of category space. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 22:46, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
- Delete usercategory masquerading as an article category. Also, all this user's contributions are related to his user page or this category. 76.66.195.63 (talk) 12:29, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
Category:Encycloboxes
Category:Encycloboxes (|talk|history|links|watch|logs)
- Nominator's rationale: Delete. - Virtually unused category apparently made solely for a userbox. Useless. VegaDark (talk) 21:59, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
Category:Half-Life 2
- Category:Half-Life 2 - (|talk|history|links|watch|logs)
- Nominator's rationale: Delete Simply put, I think this is overcategorisation. All Half-Life 2 articles are far better placed under Category:Half-Life than creating a limited subcategory soley for HL2 products. I've already moved all the articles into the main Half-Life category, they fit much better there. -- Sabre (talk) 21:47, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
- Delete Redundant to existing Half-Life category. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 21:50, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
- Comment. I've restored this category and its contents, since it was first manually emptied and then deleted during this CfD. Good Ol’factory (talk) 04:38, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
- Weak Keep - personally, I don't think this is a problematic category (though I wouldn't particularly mind if it were merged). All the articles it contains are solely related to Half-Life 2, rather than the Half-Life series in general - and despite being 'limited', there are actually several articles (e.g. Alyx Vance, Gravity gun) that should be in this category but aren't. Terraxos (talk) 03:44, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
- Propose merge - overlap. Ian Cairns (talk) 20:02, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
- Reverse Merge to follow standard form in Category:Opera companies by country. Vegaswikian (talk) 20:45, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
- Delete USA or Merge one way or the other. Category:USA opera companies consists entirely of empty sub-cats. It they remain so at the end of this, they should just bew deleted. They are a week old already. Johnbod (talk) 01:17, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
- merge to Category:American opera companies to be clear of merge direction. This name follows the names of sister categories. Hmains (talk) 03:44, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
- Reverse Merge to follow Fooian opera companies standard. Alansohn (talk) 03:45, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
- Reverse merge per Hmains; "USA" is non-standard. -choster (talk) 05:10, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
- Reverse merge and rename the target to Category:Opera companies in the United States. "American opera companies" could mean "opera companies that only perform American operas." Otto4711 (talk) 12:09, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
- Reverse merge and rename per Otto. Assuming that this renaming proposal gains support, the same formulation should also be applied to all of the other sub-cats of Category:Opera companies by country. Cgingold (talk) 22:03, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
- Merge both to Category:Opera companies in the United States per Otto 76.66.195.63 (talk) 04:17, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
Category:Settlements in British Columbia by regional district
- Propose renaming Category:Communities in Cowichan Valley Regional District, British Columbia to Category:Settlements in the Regional District of Cowichan Valley
- Nominator's rationale: Rename. Three issues; one is to harmonize with the parent "Settlements" category and standard, the next is the superfluity of comma-British Columbia, and the third, most important to me, is that we do not refer to regional districts as stand-alone proper names, but always prefixed with the definite article "the". Some RDs also have official names in "reverse format" as in this case, so the category should reflect the RD's official name; otherwise the new name could be Category:Settlements in the Cowichan Valley Regional District. However in this case and certain others - and only certain others, particularly Central Okanagan, East Kootenay, maybe others (see list following) - the more practicable category name may be Category:Communities in the Cowichan Valley although the Regional District of Cowichan Valley is not quite synonymous with the geographic region Cowichan Valley; this and other sepcial cases can be addressed in future CFDs....Skookum1 (talk) 17:27, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
- Category:Communities in Okanagan-Similkameen Regional District -> *Category:Settlements in the Regional District of Okanagan-Similkameen or Category:Settlements in the Okanagan-Similkameen Regional District
- Category:Communities in Squamish-Lillooet Regional District, British Columbia -> Category:Settlements in the Squamish-Lillooet Regional District
- Category:Communities in Cariboo Regional District -> Category:Settlements in the Cariboo Regional District
- Category:Communities in East Kootenay Regional District -> Category:Settlements in the Regional District of East Kootenay or Category:Settlements in the East Kootenay Regional District
- Category:Communities in Central Okanagan Regional District, British Columbia -> Category:Settlements in the Regional District of Central Okanagan - or Category:Settlements in the Central Okanagan, as the RD and the region are virtually indistinguishable as also with Cowichan Valley.
- Category:Communities in Central Kootenay Regional District, British Columbia -> Category:Settlements in the Regional District of Central Kootenay (or Category:Settlements in the Central Kootenay Regional District
- Category:Communities in Fraser-Fort George -> Category:Settlements in the Fraser-Fort George Regional District
- Category:Communities in Comox Valley Regional District, British Columbia -> Category:Settlements in the Comox Valley Regional District
- Category:Communities in Alberni-Clayoquot Regional District, British Columbia -> Category:Settlements in the Alberni-Clayoquot Regional District
- Category:Communities in Nanaimo Regional District, British Columbia -> Category:Settlements in the Nanaimo Regional District
- Category:Communities in Capital Regional District, British Columbia -> Category:Settlements in the Capital Regional District
- Category:Communities in Fraser Valley Regional District, British Columbia -> Category:Settlements in the Fraser Valley Regional District
- Category:Communities in Greater Vancouver Regional District, British Columbia -> Category:Settlements in the Greater Vancouver Regional District
- Support These have been bothering me for a while, as have the associated "people from" categories which I'll make a separate umbrella nomination for. I don't like using RD categories as geographic-division categories to start with, for a variety of reasons, but if they're going to exist at all they should reflect the way British Columbians refer to regional districts - i.e. by the inclusion of "the" before the regional district name. The inclusion of "British Columbia" to the category titles also seems superfluous, likewise in the parent categories (another umbrella nomination yet to be done...) and supplanting "Settlements" for "Communities" not only fits wiki standards it also "fits" with localities, ranches, islands, ghost towns, etc where "community" doesn't quite work for one reason or another. Also some regional district proper names come in the form "Regional District of xxx" and maybe that should be reflected in the subcategory name; I've included both options as, for example, in the case of the Okanagan-Similkameen, in speech we commonly refer to it as "Okanagan-Similkameen Regional District" despite its official name as "Regional District of Okanagan-Similkameen". Fraser-Fort George was also missing "Regional District" entirely, as also with its other subcats which I'll nominate separately. Some of these will also be composed only of subcats, e.g. in Okanagan Similkameen's case Category:Settlements in the South Okanagan and Category:Settlements in the Similkameen as the RD is composed of more than one "natural" geographic region that we use in ordinary speech; can't be done with othersSkookum1 (talk) 17:27, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
- Support. The British Columbia dab is completely unnecessary. It ought to match the parent category as "Settlements in". I don't feel strongly one way or the other on the use of "the". DOUBLEBLUE (talk) 17:56, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
- Comment Not sure if you live in BC or not, but without the "the" sounds very odd and artificial, like a bad copy-paste from someone else's styleguide. "Settlements in regional district" reads like point-form - "jotted down" or shorthand - in an abbreviated, un-natural usage. "Most common usage" should apply, and any news copy would say "the town is in the Squamish-Lillooet Regional District} rather than "the town is in Squamish-Lillooet Regional District"....unless that news copy were written using (sadly) Wikipedia as a reference.Skookum1 (talk) 18:37, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
- Or put another way, without the "the" looks every bit as odd as "Settlements in the Suffolk County" or "Settlements in the Whatcom County" vs "Settlements in Suffolk County" and "Settlements in Whatcom County"; counties don't need the "the", regional districts do....Skookum1 (talk) 19:31, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
- 'Round here we just say Municipalities in York Region. :-) DOUBLEBLUE (talk) 19:42, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah, but that's an Ontario-ism and specific to York Region and I'd suppose Peel Region and...Ottawa Region? I'm out in Hali these days, and it's not "the Halifax County" it's just "Halifax County"; I'd imagine Perth County, ON, is still said as "Perth County" not as "the Perth County", right?Skookum1 (talk) 17:03, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
- You're correct. The name change from "county" to "region" was foisted upon us Ontarians and the word "region" has taken on a rather peculiar meaning of a county. DOUBLEBLUE (talk) 17:18, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
- Well, you see, that's sort of my point. Regional districts are not counties yet are treated in wikipedia and by wikipedians as if they were, including not using "the" when speaking/writing of them and also people using "seat" to refer to the town where the RD offices are (something that's just not part of British Columbia English); it's the reverse situation from what you observe about Region/County in Ontario, although I note perhaps that given the name change people didn't also starting saying "in the York Region" instead of "in York Region". "only in wikipedia" do you see constructions such as "in Thompson-Nicola Regional District"; the normal format is "in the Thompson-Nicola Regional District". About the County/Region rebranding and things like it (see Talk:Metro Vancouver's discussion re that usage vs GVRD) my own opinion is that the government is wiping away history to build "the new Canada", to remove regional identities and replace them with asbtract administraitve units. That's highly POV and only my own opinion/sentiment but I could point to countless other examples (one that comes to mind re my immediate surroundigns is the rebranding of Greater Halifax as "HRM").Skookum1 (talk) 18:51, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
- Support to remove unnecessary disambiguation. --maclean 18:04, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
- Support. Can we do this with U.S. counties next (by that I mean the uniquely named ones; of course we'd want to move the articles too)… — CharlotteWebb 19:15, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
- Sure, all you have to do is laboriously compile them all like I just did for these communities cats and make an entry here; takes hours, as I've found out....Skookum1 (talk) 19:31, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
Category:Dirty Sexy Money characters
- Category:Dirty Sexy Money characters - (|talk|history|links|watch|logs)
- Nominator's rationale: Delete It contains only one article.